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Inside Britain’s Israel Lobby – Dispatches

Here is the full 48 minute episode Inside Britain’s Israel Lobby from Channel Four’s Dispatches program.

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  2. James
    18 November, 2009
  3. Freeborn
    18 November, 2009

    Oborn seems to think the Israeli lobby story is some kind of major scoop.

    He’s actually trying to lock a stable door from which the horse has long since bolted!

    Wasn’t Cromwell bank-rolled by Jewish Amsterdam bankers?

    Wasn’t Wellington’s army fed and watered with Rothschild money?

    Didn’t they acquire the Suez Canal for Britain back in 1875?

    The Milner Group and Chatham House were both vehicles for Jewish controlling influence at domestic media and political levels as well as overseas.Jewish resource-prospectors helped Rhodes and the British rape Africa.

    On their return to Blighty they set about establishing a Pax Anglo-Americana of world domination.Israel was integral to their plan.

    US and British political parties and their respective military industrial complexes are merely the strings for Jewish Money Power puppeteers.

    Evidently unbeknown to Oborn this has been the case for centuries.

    Those who cite the phrase “Jewish Money Power” as a controlling influence in world affairs have been known to be censored…….

    It’s what’s known as a self-fulfilling prophecy!

    Wait for the WordPress scissors…….

  4. Chrysalis
    18 November, 2009

    Hi Freeborn, FWIW I don’t think it goes far enough but its an achievement for msm in the UK — it’d be unimaginable in the US. As for the phrase Jewish money power, it’s not radioactive in itself but depends upon the way it is used. Its an acknowledged reality even by establishment types: even Seymour Hersh blames “New York Jewish money” for warmongering on Iran.

  5. Ann
    18 November, 2009

    I generally commend the program and one should be mindful that its focus is on current and recent events only and is necessarily limited. It is however a much-needed addressing of the Lobby in the UK to a mainstream audience.

    There’s also some repetition of hasbara to which I object eg “Israel invaded Gaza in response to Hamas rocket attacks” (around 18:30). No, that’s what the zionist entity claims but the evidence proves otherwise. It was israel that willfully broke the ceasefire and attacked Gaza, killing over 1400 and destroying much of the Palestinian territory. Ineffectual Hamas rockets had virtually stopped during the six month ceasefire. There was no casus belli: israel launched a surprise and unprovoked attack, starting with the massacre of the policemen in Gaza on their graduation.

    Another is at the 6.34 mark, when (mis)characterising the reason for israel’s heinous 2006 destruction of so much of Lebanon as arising from Hezbollah “attacks”. Hezbollah’s capturing of two israeli soldiers (four others soldiers died running over a land mine in Lebanese territory) was merely a pretext for a pre-planned war. I’ve written more about this here.

  6. Freeborn
    18 November, 2009

    Perhaps Pulse readers are unfamiliar with the recent suspension of the Against Zionism site by wordpress.

    Ostensibly the take-down was for “terms of use violation”.

    In fact it seems Against Zionism had been drawing readers’ attention to the involvement of Jewish Money Power in the two world wars.

    Fortunately aangirfan has it covered here-

    http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/11war.is.racket.html

    The above post appears to be removed from the blog, which can still be viewed at http://aangirfan.blogspot.com

  7. Freeborn
    18 November, 2009

    http://aagirfan.blogspot.com/2009/11/war.is.racket.com

    Any ticking Pulses out there will recognise the title of a famous pamphlet-much cited by Chomsky-by General Smedley Butler.

  8. Janet
    19 November, 2009

    Thanks for the reminder. It is so subtle and ever present, sometimes we don’t even think about it, (in terms of the distortions and lies we are fed).

    Janet

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  10. Asa
    19 November, 2009

    “Freeborn” — do shut up with your “Jewish conspiracy” nonsense. What a load of rubbish. You’ll be telling us all “the Jews” were responsible for 9/11 next. Utter rot, and a total distraction from the real issue at hand: the crimes of the Zionist entity.

  11. Freeborn
    20 November, 2009

    “Asa”

    FYI-An abridged list Khazar/Zionist conspiracy:

    Promissary notes and debt slavery
    Kabbalism,Secret Societies,”Charitable Foundations”,Think-tanks
    Assassinations,false-flag terror attacks
    Social/Economic engineering
    Epidemics,Bio-weapons
    Young Turks/Armenian massacres
    WW1
    Bolshevik Revolution
    Soviet Gulag
    Ukrainian Famine
    WW2
    Freemasonic “Israel”
    ” EU
    ” NAFTA
    WW3……..

    No conspiracy there then…..

    P.S.Happy Gate-Keeping!

  12. Asa
    20 November, 2009

    Good grief.

    Can you explain to me what exactly are your differences with Zionism? Because in reality you are just two sides of the same coin.

    Ascribing the actions of Israel to all Jews in the world responsible is the central arguement of Zionism: or in other words that Israel repsresents all Jews.

    In reality, it does not — by any stretch of the imagination. And furthermore, I take it personally when people like you spout such rubbish, as we have many Jewish comrades in the Palestine solidarity movement.

    Why don’t you bugger off to the 9/11 troofers boards. You might get an audience there.

  13. Chrysalis
    20 November, 2009

    Dear Asa,

    I agree with your position on distinguishing Jews and zionists, but I think you are tainting 911 truthers — there is a strong case that it was a false flag operation and it probably did have Israeli input. There are too many things that just don’t add up in the official conspiracy version where we are led to believe that 16 Arabs with box cutters were somehow responsible. The buildings were almost certainly rigged for remote-demolition at point of impact.

  14. Freeborn
    20 November, 2009

    “Asa”

    Spoon-fed research-averse gatekeeper saps like you are notoriously incapable of discovering anything on your own.Now this does tend to put you guys at a disadvantage when it comes to intellectual engagement of any description.

    The evidence for the controlling involvement of the House of Rothschild and their agents in all the historical events listed is substantial.

    The idea that the Rothschilds and their agents represent all Jews is an understandable mistake for someone as intellectually challenged as yourself to make.

    The imputation that anyone who challenges official accounts that airbrush the involvement of these elites in major historical events is necessarily “anti-semitic” is a classic feint designed to absolve you from engaging in argument for which you are pathetically ill-equipped.

    Your getting all precious about your “Jewish comrades” speaks volumes about the kind of outdated politically correct “leftie” identity politics to which you subscribe.

    Grow up!

    Get some research done on the said events,especially 9/11,then come back and try and assemble an argument rather than embarrass yourself like you’re doing now.

    You’ll probably find like most of us who’ve researched 9/11 that you’ll be hard pushed to find evidence that the said elites were NOT involved!

    By the way someone who can’t even spell the word “truth” is obviously a stranger to it!

  15. Doug Tarnopol
    20 November, 2009

    I have to agree with Asa here, especially insofar as the more people of Freeborn’s intellectual ilk construct their vast “theories,” the more they do the work, ironically, of AIPAC, et al.

    Concentrate on the facts. It’s really impossible to believe that all badness in the world is due to one group of people, racially defined (falsely, at that — another point of agreement between dogmatic Zionists and anti-Zionists).

    One worry in the field of evolutionary biology, with which I’m a bit familiar, was that entertaining any ideas not wholly within the neo-Darwinian synthesis (the reigning theory from the 30s-70s) was tantamount to capitulating to creationists. I know first-hand how that battle stifled progress in evolutionary theory, having studied it a bit. Still is a problem, with the creationists claiming Stephen Jay Gould and others for their cause — totally dishonestly, I might add.

    Same problem here. People who would like to break out of the mostly pro-Zionist ideology of the literati in the West are scared off when clearly anti-Semitic drivel is put forward. So, you’re basically doing the Zionists’ work for them, whether you realize it, admit it, or not. You actually give fuel to the ideological Greek fire of claiming anti-Semitism whenever criticism of Israel arises.

    While I agree with Judt that one should simply not get too concerned with anti-Semitic co-option of non-anti-Semitic, but highly critical, arguments for Palestinian rights, etc., it would help a lot of people like yourself would rethink your blanket assumptions, and stop “yelling” at people on decent blogs such as Pulse.

  16. Freeborn
    21 November, 2009

    Doug

    Have you posted on the wrong thread?

    Evolutionary biology and the “Western literati” are ROT.

    Can you at least add anything of substance to the argument?

    Otherwise,you are,like your decent Western literati friend,demonstrating an utter incapacity for real intellectual engagement.

    Your resort to personalising the argument in no way compensates for your failure to address any of the issues raised.

    It should be explicitly clear by now that no-one is suggesting that “all the badness in the world” is down to one ethnic group.

    What is at issue is the extent of involvement of Money-Power elites in lobbying for Israel.That was the theme of the Oborn Dispatches programme.

    The fact that you have Western literati friends or that “Asa” has Jewish comrades or that we all subscribe to a “decent blog like Pulse” is neither here nor there.

    At the risk of damaging your highly sensitive eardrums I should add that only an intellectual lightweight would confuse polemic with “yelling”.

  17. Chrysalis
    21 November, 2009

    I must admit I’m confused when Doug refers to what is alleged to be the “mostly pro-Zionist ideology of the literati in the West”. Isn’t that elevating the zionists? Its the bought-off politicians and bureaucrats (the “elite” in Freeborn’s parlance, though that too confers upon them a dignity I’d prefer not to give them) who are pro-zionist, but the literati? The literary intelligentsia are far more pro-justice, I’d say, and on the side of Palestinians.

  18. James
    22 November, 2009

    Zionist Control of Britain’s Government: 1940-2009 by William A. Cook

    http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/zionist-control-of-britains-government-1940-2009-by-william.html

  19. Freeborn
    22 November, 2009

    What a pair of preening intellectual fan-dancers they were.Just like fan-dancers they were never going to come up with the goods!

    In their socially-engineered politically correct vision of the world the Jews constitute a downtrodden ethnic and religious group who are beyond criticism.Hence the absurd prissiness about their “Jewish comrades” in the Palestine Solidarity Movement etc.

    Their aversion to undertaking any meaningful research of their own means there are gaping chasms of historical ignorance in their corporate media-constructed “reality”.As protagonists in debate they leave themselves disarmed and vulnerable since they know nothing beyond the official fictions purveyed by the largely Jewish-owned corporate media and official historical sources.

    Were they capable of asking themselves simple relevant questions like-is Israel the national embodiment of Jewish people worldwide or that of the foundations,think-tanks and corporate interests that lobby for it they might be worth engaging in debate.

    Sadly not even exposees like Oborn’s will prompt such reflection.Thus the blood Jew dystopia with inverted Nuremberg Laws,a few hundred nuclear warheads-a sad case of Napoleon complex reeking of supremacy and colonialism has little to fear from the intellectual fan dancers on the sad,soft left.

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  21. m.idrees
    22 November, 2009

    The film was predictably attacked by Israel’s leading lobbyist in the UK parliament Denis McShane. Here the film makers respond to his smears

    Defending Dispatches
    By Peter Oborne and James Jones
    19 November 2009
    The Independent
    Antisemitism is the most notorious form of racism. Its long and hideous history culminated in the Nazi Holocaust and its still exists as a powerful and very dangerous force in the 21st century. The lesson of the past is that it must be fought wherever it manifests itself.
    For this very reason, it is essential that the term should not be abused. Sadly, the Labour MP Denis MacShane has done so in his attack on our Channel 4 Dispatches programme, ‘Inside Britain’s Israel Lobby’, broadcast on Monday evening.
    MacShane shockingly says that our film is “1930s style prejudice dressed up as modern TV journalism”. He even more shockingly concludes that “antisemitic politics is back”. The charge that we have somehow made common cause with Nazis could not be more damaging, or more false.
    The pro-Israel lobby is a legitimate subject of investigation, just like any other lobby, and we carried out a scrupulous investigation. MacShane refuses to engage with any of the points raised about the need for transparency and accountability.
    We showed in our film how some defenders of Israel deliberately exploit the charge of antisemitism as a way of discrediting legitimate criticism of Israeli foreign policy – a tactic which debases and cheapens a very real and dangerous phenomenon. Denis MacShane has fallen into that trap.

  22. James
    22 November, 2009

    Calling People ‘Anti-Semitic’: It’s a Trick!:

    http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com/2009/07/its-trick.html

  23. James
    22 November, 2009

    The pro-Israel lobby and antisemitism

    C4′s Dispatches has been branded ‘antisemitic’, but surely Britain’s Jewish community can cope with reasoned scrutiny?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/20/c4-dispatches-israel-lobby-antisemitism

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  25. alex ajay
    23 November, 2009

    Please read this excellent article in Haaretz
    on the topic of the Dispatches video…

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1129517.html

  26. Asa
    23 November, 2009

    I notice this person — who I’m starting to think is a Zionist troll — totally ignores my simple call to outline his/her difference with Zionism (I suspect that there are few) and just contines on another dribbling rant about some other weird rubbish. Yawn.

    Chrysalis: Thanks, but I have to dissagree with you about 9/11. There is no evidence of that at all. Have you watch Amy Goodman’s debate between “Loose Change” film makers and the editors of Popular Mechanics? I suggest you watch/listen to it:

    http://www.democracynow.org/2006/9/11/exclusive_9_11_debate_loose_change

    Also, why are you suggesting that 16 Arabs with box cutters could not plan and execute such an attack? I don’t see any reason why not. I’m not suggesting this is you, but I think the way this particular argument is often posed is frankly racist.

  27. James
    23 November, 2009
  28. Chrysalis
    23 November, 2009

    Asa,

    Thank you for your comment and link. Yes, I have watched that debate. Popular Mechanics are discredited (that’s not to say I agree with all of Loose Change either). For a credible, unimpeachable investigation, I’d recommend you read anything by David Ray Griffin. Here’s his website for numerous links:
    http://davidraygriffin.com/

    In relation to the POpular mechanics non-challenge, a full book:
    http://davidraygriffin.com/books/debunking-911-debunking-an-answer-to-popular-mechanics-and-other-defenders-of-the-official-conspiracy-theory/
    Video address:

    As well:

    Thermite
    By John S. Hatch
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article22408.htm

    The ‘Israeli Art Student’ Files
    Media coverage of Israel’s underground in the US –
    and the 9/11 connection
    http://antiwar.com/israeli-files.php

    9/11 as the Big Lie: Why Propaganda Trumps Truth
    By Paul Craig Roberts
    http://vdare.com/roberts/090914_propaganda.htm

    As for questioning the absurdity of 16 Arabs being responsible, it isn’t at all racist. Nice try. You’re asking us to believe that the extraordinary resources and full might of the US military failed not just in intelligence but in normal operating procedure on the day as well? That NORAD failed to respond? That the so-called hijackers can defy the laws of physics?

  29. Chrysalis
    23 November, 2009

    The testimonials for Rev and Prof David Ray Griffin are pretty impressive (below). But don’t take their word for it: why not read his work for yourself. The link is up there, pointing you to his books, articles and videos — all his recent life’s work on this topic that 9/11 was an inside job — probably with Israeli govt involvement.

    ___

    “David Ray Griffin has established himself–alongside Seymour Hersh–as America’s number one bearer of unpleasant, yet necessary, public truths.”
    Richard Falk, Professor of International Law, Emeritus, Princeton University

    “Until we get a complete, honest, transparent investigation–not one based on ‘confession’ extracted by torture–we will never know what happened on 9/11. David Griffin will never let this go until we get the truth.”
    Robert Baer, former CIA case officer and author of See No Evil and Sleeping with the Devil.

    After reading David Ray Griffin’s previous books on the subject, I was over 90% convinced that 9/11 was an inside job. Now, after reading Debunking 9/11 Debunking, I am, I regret to say, 100% convinced.
    John V. Whitbeck, author of The World According to Whitbeck

    Considering how the 9-ll tragedy has been used by the Bush administration to propel us into immoral wars again and again, I believe that David Ray Griffin’s provocative questions about 9-ll deserve to be investigated and addressed.
    Howard Zinn

    David Ray Griffin hits another one out of the park by taking on the left gatekeepers and the mass media for the lies and cover-up called “the official story of 9/11/01,” which is the greatest conspiracy theory ever perpetrated on the American public. I highly recommend this book for all thinking Americans.
    Meria Heller, producer host of the Meria Heller Show

    David Ray Griffin’s Debunking 9/11 Debunking is a superb compendium of the strong body of evidence showing the official US government story of what happened on September 11, 2001 to be almost certainly a monstrous series of lies. Tragically, the entire course of US foreign and domestic policies since that date has grown out of these almost certain falsehoods. This single book could (and should) provide the basis for the United Nations International Court of Justice, or some specially constituted global body (independent of the US) to investigate with highest priority, and publicly report its findings about, the charge that unknown elements within the US government, and possibly some individuals elsewhere closely allied to the US, caused or contributed to causing the events of September 11 to happen.
    Bill Christison, former senior official of the CIA

    Professor Griffin is the nemesis of the 9/11 cover-up. This new book destroys the credibility of the NIST and Popular Mechanics reports and annihilates his critics.”
    Paul Craig Roberts, assistant secretary of the US Treasury during the Reagan administration

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  31. Chrysalis
    24 November, 2009

    Loads of dynamite links

    It wasn’t Muslims
    http://www.takeourworldback.com/itwasntmuslims.htm

  32. PNAC
    26 November, 2009

    PNAC is Neocons Mein Kampf – Ad half of core, ‘Founding NAZI fathers’ of that – are Zionist Nazi-FAscist Terrorists – who did in IRAQ almost all what Hitler in/for Poland

    Make no mistakes about it!

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  34. Freeborn
    27 November, 2009

    Aangirfan does the business on the British Israeli Lobby far better than Oborn.

    Then again Aangirfan is no gate-keeper.He’s more what you guys would call a “conspiracy theorist”.

    That means he thinks that in order for elites to effect and sustain their dominance they must be capable of networking and planning years ahead.Now the forward planning in which they engage is what you call “conspiracy”.

    Usually the evidence used by conspiracists comes straight from the horse’s mouth.David Rockefeller
    for example told the 1991 Bilderberger in Baden that the corporate media had been extraordinarily helpful in complying with the Group’s request for a media black-out on Bilderberger meetings that had held for nearly forty years by then.

    The black-out according to Rockefeller had allowed the Group to forward their agenda for World Government without the public really noticing.The world was then well on the way to accepting the idea that being governed by “a supra-national intellectual elite and world bankers group was far preferable to the national auto-determinism practised in past centuries.”

    Whether such evidence comes from the actual conspirators themselves or from insiders like Caroll Quigley or whistle-blowers like Richard Grove-check out his tragedyandhope.com website named after Quigley’s magnum opus on elites-gatekeepers will shout:”conspiracy theory” and believe that this rhetorical feint absolves them from having to do any research of their own.

    And their “respectability”-whatever that is-will still be intact.

    If you couldn’t give a stuff re-respectability but simply want to know the truth about the elites that have misruled us for centuries and got away with it check out Grove or:

    http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/11/kim-howells-spies-and-israel.html

  35. James
    28 November, 2009

    Israel Lobby bankrolling Tories; 50% of shadow cabinet are Conservative Friends of Israel

    http://america-hijacked.com/2009/11/22/dispatches-inside-britains-pro-israel-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-853

  36. James
    1 December, 2009

    FOR A FULL TRANSCRIPT OF THE DISPATCHES CHANNEL 4 PROGRAM ON THE UK ISRAEL LOBBY…..(PDF)

    http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/downloads/documents/The-pro-Israel-lobby-in-Britain-full-text.pdf

  37. Freeborn
    1 December, 2009

    More on the Jewish conspiracy-allegedly.

    http://nona-people.blogspot.com/2007/12/jewish-conspiracy-in-uk.html

    The stuff on the Jewish cabal around Wilson is fascinating.The Gannex mac Wilson wore that became his trademark came from one of Kagan’s companies.

    I bet Sternberg,Meyer,Goodman,Goldsmith et al had a laugh about the way Kagan had kitted out Wilson “in borrowed robes”.

    You can bet he got the pipe idea from Mikardo! Then passed it on to Tony Benn!

    Sorry none of you young whippersnappers will remember any of this stuff about a Jewish conspiracy around Wilson.

    And the idea that Soviet intelligence,abetted by Rothschild,had Gaitskell bumped off…..now that’s just more conspiracy theory……..

    SAPS!

    May I just take this opportunity to say a heartfelt apology to our Jewish comrades in the Palestine Solidarity movement!

  38. Octalia
    18 July, 2010

    In reference to the Israeli attack on Lebanon, I’m amazed at the blatant two-faced hyprocisy of the Marxist Liberal-controlled British political system.

    Did they elect to intervene to try to prevent the mass murder of Christians in Christian Lebanon even if possibily, the Israeli lobby secretly held a vested interest in the outcome of this particular episode of genocide of Christians by Islamists?

    No, apparently not!

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