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  1. Ann Says:

    May they rest in peace:

    1- Eyad Al Ashram, Male, 26
    2- Musleh Abu Ali, Male, 17
    3- Jakline Abu shbak, Female, 17
    4- Eyad abu Shabk, Male, 14
    5- Basam Muhammad Ubaid, Male, 45
    6- Basam Ubaid, Male, 15
    7- Hamza Al jamal, Male, 40
    8- Abdallah Abd Rabu, Male, 4
    9- Ibrahim Alzain, Male, 25
    10- Mustafa Zaghloul, Male, 32
    11- Hamada Abd Al hameed, Male, 29
    12- Saeed Al hasheem, Male, 23
    13- Husain Al batsh, Male, 27
    14- Samah Zaydan Asalya, Female, 17
    15- Salwa Zaydan Asalya, Female, 23
    16- Tala’t Dardona, Male, 29
    17- Mustafa Abu Jalala, Male, 28
    18- Hasan Safi, Male, 25
    19- Abdallah Abu Shaira, Male, 18
    20- Mutasim Abd Rabu, Male, 24
    21- Hamada Saleh Al abad, Male, 16
    22- Mustafa Manon, Male, 22
    23- Muhammad Sleem, Male, 24
    24- Muhammad Abdalrahman Shhab, Male, 23
    25- Ali Al Kitnani, Male, 15
    26- Tal’at Dardona, Male, 17
    27- Sana Ghad Al abed Saleh, Female, 16
    28- Ahmed Albatsh, Male, 16
    29- Muslih Muhamad Muslih, Male, 17
    30- Thabet Junied, Male
    31- Sultan Al zain, Male
    32- Mustafa Abu Jalala, Male
    33- Muhammad Al atar, Male
    34- Nael Abu Alon, Male, 20
    35- Muhammad Abd Al mouti Sleem, Male,
    36- Saed Dabour, Male, 28
    37- Hamada Saed, Male
    38- Mahmoud Rayan, Male
    39- Jedjad Hatem Abu Hlayal, Male
    40- Thari Abu Aubaid, Male
    41- Tamer Weshah, Male
    42- Ahmed Saleh Abd Al rahman, Male
    43- Muhammad Abd Al qader Oqylan, Male
    44- Hasan Abu Harb, Male
    45- Abd Al rahman Atallah, Male, 60
    46- Ibrahim Attalah, Male, 30
    47- Sua’d Atallah
    48- Unknown
    49- Unknown
    50- Unknown
    51- Unknown
    52- Unknown
    53- Unknown in Khan Yonis City
    54- Unknown in Khan Yonis City

  2. Crimson East Says:

    May they rest in peace, and may the Fascist perpetrators of this crime pay a heavy price in blood and tears.
    Resistance until death, Revolution until victory: Long Live Palestine!

  3. Mission Accomplished « Ten Percent Says:

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  4. 99 Says:

    Here’s another….

  5. peoplesgeography.com Says:

    Thanks very much, 99. Kudos to the brilliant Mr Fish.

  6. Dave Bath Says:

    Of course, modern ethnic cleansing by devout ultra-orthodox jews is only continuing the tradition of what is recounted in their holy books with the slaughter and rape of everyone in Canaanite towns, and the rejoicing at the death of a child in every Egyptian household before the invasion of Canaan. The Book of Joshua is nothing but a glorification of genocide and a list of spoils divided. Other books in the OT are almost as bad. Until Jews and Christians official reject Joshua (and similar books) as texts inspired by evil rather than good, they should all be considered apologists for genocide. Indeed, holding these books as holy can only encourage genocide.

  7. Ressentiment Says:

    Very interesting observations, Dave. Agree with you entirely as to the horrifying character of some of the unabridged rants in the Old Testament, but it’s a real challenge to draw a line directly from A to Zed, from literature to culture, whilst skipping all the letter stops in between. There are quite a few more ingredients before you can make a cake out of high criticism in religious literature.

    I’ve been looking for someone to hold responsible for the Holocaust on Islam, a.k.a. the GWOT, for a long time, and of course the orthodox where the first in the lineup of the usual suspects. But the more I study the more my intuition tells me that the orthodox in all three traditions of Abraham are being hung out to dry by institutions that are not motivated by religion and are much more well funded than ascetic communities.

    When he was hired by the U.S. government to recruit and lead Jihadists to undermine the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden was a highly valued employee of the federal government. And very few people in leadership positions in the U.S. government are orthodox anything. We don’t know. Osama bin Laden’s services might still be highly prized as a highly effective influence on American public opinion who has obtained excellent results for conservative politicians. His taped speeches just happen to coincide with major U.S. policy initiatives and elections, and the conservative herd responds as if they were being managed by the best sheep dog on the planet. The land of the free and the brave cries like school children when Osama bin Laden makes a video tape.

    And all the kings horses and all the kings men are supposedly looking for Osama bin Laden, but somehow someone has managed not to find him. The United States can listen to anyone’s telephone conversations anywhere in the world. (I’m sure the great debate isn’t lost on anyone that it’s wrong to spy on Americans but its okay to do it to everyone else. It’s wrong to torture American citizens, but everyone else is fair game. Anything can be rationalized for national security.) We have satellites that can read my newspaper better than I can with my bifocals anywhere on the planet. We can read your emails before you press the send button. We can low-jack anybody with RFID and look up their GPS coordinates up on Google Earth. We can examine anyone’s bank records anywhere in the world simply by asking for the information. No bank has ever refused access that we know of. Now we even have banking agreements with Iran, thanks to president Ahmadinejad. See also The Fanonite: Iran wins again.

    None of these operations are being conducted by orthodox religious people or even on their behalf. It is in someone’s interest to frame terrorism as an act of religious zealotry rather than an act of self defense and patriotism or nationalism, which are protected rights in the West. Israel was created by secular Jews who openly find orthodox Jews repugnant, and most of the U.S. money and influence funding Israel’s crimes against humanity doesn’t come from people who take their religion seriously. In fact, the really good rabbis will tell you straight out that the idea that Israel is a piece of real estate is blasphemy.

    Of course, if you want to colonize the West Bank, the only people who are crazy enough make a living trying it are the orthodox. But you have to follow the money and you’ll see who is paying the orthodox to colonize the West Bank. You know they’re not making a ton of money chopping down Palestinian olive groves directly, so they must have some other source of income. Anna Baltzer, a Fulbright Scholar, has documented how much Israel pays the settlers to colonize the West Bank and the soldiers who support them in her book Witness in Palestine.

    But I digress. Your original point was that some parts of the OT aren’t the highest expression of Western humanitarian values. That’s certainly true. But all the major religions have that problem. Even Buddhism has had its share of infamous schisms and internecine feuds. But I think almost everyone who takes their religion seriously today, in any religion, understands the context of human understanding in which those texts were produced. Of course every year there are dozens of start up hate ventures initiated by zealots of one denomination or the next. Everyone probably remembers Jim Jones?

    Spelunking ancient literature is not something that you should let the kids do at home. Nevertheless, some kids get a hold of the materials and make a mess of themselves and everyone else. I always save something kind to say for the millions of believers who do not get misled by people like that and who take the ideas of human unity and community and service very seriously. I was raised by missionaries.

  8. Dave Bath Says:

    Ressentiment: You say… “We can examine anyone’s bank records anywhere in the world simply by asking for the information. No bank has ever refused access that we know of” - Actually, Swiss and Luxemborg banks are getting into trouble with EU agencies because they DO refuse.

    You say “But I think almost everyone who takes their religion seriously today, in any religion, understands the context of human understanding in which those texts were produced”. Almost everyone? Consider (in a less emotive issue) the proportion of US Christians who reject Darwin: almost 50%.

    If individuals (whether a minority or not) can be charged for hate speech, or inciting violence, (and Ruddock was trying to change these laws so that the “reasonable listener” test was irrelevant, the speaker/publisher needing to take into account the resulting actions of irrational audiences) then quoting texts like Joshua with approval, the slaughter of people because they are not Jewish, and implying that this is the will of a deity and therefore a good thing, is not different to the mad mullahs (who ARE charged) claiming that it is ok to kill unbelievers.

    Further, as Zionists (whether Israeli or US christians) demand that leaders in the moslem world to explicitly reject violence and the so-called “sword verses” of the Q’ran, then Zionists cannot object to any demand that Israeli leaders explicitly and publicly reject Joshua.

    Without explicit rejections of the “genocide verses” of Jewish and Christian texts, Zionist attitudes will continue to be fostered. Such rejections won’t solve the problem, but they will help to moderate it.

  9. michaelgreenwell Says:

    just recently become aware of mr fish. brilliant stuff.

  10. Ben Heine Says:

    that was awesome, Ann

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